a bit of advice about glue

[KurseD]

ok i figured all you professional upholstery guys probably allready know this, but for the newbies like me figured this might help a little... i recently covered my pathy dash with bone colored tweed, using 3M Super trim adhesive in the aerosol can.. looked great at first, but now that it has been sitting for a couple months, and everything is all dried up good, ive noticed that the glue dried dark and there are lots of tiny dark spots of it peeking through the tweed.. so for future reference the super trim adhesive is not good for porus <sp?> fabrics

[02sonoma]

so what would be good for porus fabrics?

not necessarily pointed at you , but anybody who knows

[KurseD]

3M regular trim adhesive works fine.. or you can go to an upholstery shop and get the stuff that they use to spray through a paint gun, its just a super pain in the rear to clean out the gun afterwards

[02sonoma]

alright, to recap:

1. Super trim adhesive discolors fabric
2. Regular trim adhesive does not... good deal, i just ordered tweed for my truck this morning, now i know what glue to use... any other tips i should know before tweeding my interior?

[KurseD]

wash and dry the fabric first, makes it soft and easy to work with.. um follow the rule about spray a strip at a time, spray fabric back and the dash (or whatever) let it tack for a few minutes before pressing it together, it's gonna take some practice to get used to so i wouldnt try doing a dash first.. do small parts

[02sonoma]

dash isnt going to get done till wayyyyy later. thanks

[rhenry01]

I used auto upolstry tweed. It's thick enough to NOT allow the glue to bleed through!

[nickf829]

yeah dude, i havnt had a problem with my dash or any other pieces in over a year.. it might be due to the fact you have a near-white tweed, or it could be the method you applied it(ie to much or not tacky/dried enough when you applied) but i've never had that happen yet... whered you buy the fabric

[KurseD]

i used auto grade tweed too.. got it from Waynesboro custom auto upholstery.. talked to him and he said he's had the same problem before with the super trim adhesive, yeah it makes it worse that it's so light of a color.. but i put it on in light coats..

[nickf829]

i use the 90 strength and havnt had any discoloration... and we all know dam well my truck hasnt been drivin nowhere so its in sunlight from 7-7 practically everyday haha.. i think the color of the tweed might play a large part... not the glue.. same crap i use

[eatmysparks]

i think they both are a factor.....
color of tweed...and the glue...

i recommend sending all interior jobs to me!

ha ha...if you buy the glue from the upholstry shop like i used to when i first got started...you end up spending a fortune for some half ass glue...
i bought cans for $10 a piece...which is rediculous....

i decided to ditch that and order a gun and buy some good glue in gallons...its alot better...glue is alot stronger...

as for washing and drying the tweed...i dont know how good of an idea that is...never heard of anyone doin it..but it doesnt make much sense to me ...
MAYBE it will make it more plyable...but id rather work with the fabric a bit and have the color still good..than risk washing it and it messin up ...
although..it may not hurt anything..just not what i would do

if you are inexperienced ...definately only spray a bit at a time...and work with the tweed..and always test fit each part before jumpin right into it....
find where you will have possible wrinkles or stretches and try to figure out how the fabric needs to be pulled to rid the wrinkles and what not....

if you got anymore questions...let me know..im more than willing to help...and even more willing to do it for you...

[KurseD]

where do you buy glue by the gallon ? and what makes it easier to clean up when your done.. ?

[eatmysparks]

you can order glue by the gallon at yourautotrim.com and you can get a gun from them as well......

the clean up isnt that hard...just empty the glue from the jar...and use thinner to clean it all....

[02sonoma]

what should i use to prep the trim pieces before i apply the glue? and should i sand them first?

[nickf829]

i would sand mine with a finer grit sandpaper, then clean it with some sort of thinner or cleaner and let it dry before applying the glue

[KurseD]

ive had really great luck when painting plastic trim by cleaning first with hot soapy water (this removes any oil deep in the plastic from the factory) then after that is rinsed and dry, give a good wipedown with rubbing alchohol (this gets rid of any extra oils left by your fingers, armor all, or whatever the soapy water didnt get) spray first light mist coats (2 will do) with adhesion promoter (found at local auto parts store like advance auto - duplicolor is my favorite) after that dries simply spray the color .. the adhesion promoter gets rid of two steps in one, the sanding and the priming.. and is a must for adhesion to plastic parts.. another awesome product for plastic is "Krylon Fusion" which is a fairly new product so limited on color choices,BUT it is a true "ONE STEP" paint process, no sandin, priming, OR adhesion promoter.. just clean and spray.. have used it on plastic and was very pleased as well

[eatmysparks]

i dont sand a thing.....unless im painting it......
rubbin on paint thinner does the trick

[nickf829]

do you have a machine to make some tweed seat skins yet?

[eatmysparks]

not yet....but its comin very soon....id say hopefully within this next month